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| by "boboh" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 2:11:17 PM | |  | |  | |  | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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| I don't think you were beating a dead horse, in fact, I'm glad you pointed that out, it provides insight as to why it's thought that it was due to advertising. I appreciate the communication. |
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| by "Big Jim Beef BA" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 1:55:00 PM | | | | | 2 Subjects 259 Posts |
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Whats the use in beating this dead horse?
Not trying to beat the dead horse. From my view it looked like it had been done to stop advertising, which only punishes the newbies, but obviously it was for other reasons. Case closed. |
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| by "boboh" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 11:20:24 AM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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It's pretty clear there's other reasons why you think it should not be allowed, but the timing of the words being added to the bot suggests that it was for advertising.
Thing is Ganbot didn't start taking shouts until later, but it was never allowed to discuss other servers over public channels for years. The GMs enforced it when seen, ganbot got some servers early, and others later. Not all server names were put in to ganbot right away.
One day on main Vinekine complained to Athena about server advertising,
That's because there were a few French players promoting other servers, and actively propogandizing to cause damage. There's more to it than that. And the server they were promoting at the time wasn't in the list, so it was added, then Athena noticed other servers not in the list and added them. In fact, at some point realmud was added twice by mistake, because it was thought to have not been there.
Ganbot stops nothing and doesn't reduce people from cussing.
Here you are completely wrong, it does, there is all the proof to back that up and nothing to prove what you are saying. People will swear, they will get angry, etc. this will be rare and they will loose their shouts for a short time. They will accept it and get them back later.
An abusive person will swear, ganbot takes the shouts, and it's stopped. Maybe the abusive person will make another account, then another but it's obvoius that the work is not worth it. If ganbot were not there however, you would see neverending abuses.
As for the other servers, the time has been greatly reduced (from 5 hours which was too much, to 1 hour), it will not be removed, because it is by agreement that it not be allowed. If you read my posts you would see it hasn't to do with advertising. |
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 10:34:35 AM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| The point is it stops nothing if someone wants to tell everyone about a server without losing shouts they can page everyone which has been done in the past. And the other point is a new player coming here from another server and they can't even say where there from on main. Instead they page everyone asking them if they played here or there. The end result is the same eithe rway the server name has been said but just not on main that person has to thenn page everyone just to see if they know any players here possibly from the server they came from. Whats the point when someone can use multiple accounts to talk about anything they want. Or the bot takes thier shouts and they leave the server. Ganbot only covers main channels and has no control over pages. So if i wanted to tell everyone to come to a server it would be dumb to use main one cause of the bot 2 from getting that account locked. I would just use pages. Ganbot stops nothing and doesn't reduce people from cussing. Look at the logs from last night even. Or come in game and i can show you how many people don't even care if they lose shouts they say what they want the bot takes shouts and they knew he would. Why can't anyone see its pretty much pointless cause there is so many ways around it. |
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| by "Hador GES" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 4:12:19 AM | | | 9 Subjects 326 Posts |
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Well I think advertising or the opposite is the reason why its not allowed to use server names on the main channel.
It doesnt necassary mean, that gv fears advertising. I dont think that anybody would want a gv player to move to another server and talk about how superior our server is. If I understood it rightly, server owners agreed to prevent any talking on main about other servers and rightly so in my humble opinion.
in my opinion, it should be common sense not to brag about a business rival in front of the shops owner.
Whats the use in beating this dead horse? |
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| by "Big Jim Beef BA" on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 1:24:12 AM | | | | | 2 Subjects 259 Posts |
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Advertising is not the reason it's not allowed, reread the posts, I will not continue to repeat myself.
It's pretty clear there's other reasons why you think it should not be allowed, but the timing of the words being added to the bot suggests that it was for advertising.
One day on main Vinekine complained to Athena about server advertising, a few days later people started losing shouts for saying these names. This was the date that I gave you in the other thread.
Nowhere before that date have I seen or logged the bot removing anyones shouts for saying the name of another server, any server, even the ones that are no longer around. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:36:09 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| by "boboh" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:31:34 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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| You can email me for that information. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:29:38 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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boboh can you look up how old an acct is by a char name?
"BlackFox"
BlackScorpion
GreenScorpion
this was the second acct i made when i first came to this server about 7-8 years ago cant even remember the acct names on the very first one i created.but that one should give a pretty good idea how long ive been playing and paying for this game.i just would like to know roughly about how long ive been paying,since my memory isnt what it used to be.
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| by "boboh" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:08:03 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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| If you have constructive suggestions and ideas email them to me. I can not help you here, these posts of yours are accomplishing nothing. |
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:48:29 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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yes boboh this has all been discussed jsut as you have said its all been discussed over and over and over.
When you stated the fact real mud is in there is so people dont advertise.
I never stated this and this is why you have little credibility with me.
You have said sooo much about everything well im sorry i got what you said wrong its jsut that you dont have any credibility with most of the people who play your server anymore. Thats another reason its dying. We get told this and that will be out in this amount of time 6 7 8 months later nothing. Where is your credibility you already called me a cheater for the most part. Anyone who has ever tried talking sense into you and jarl just gave up. Never once have you said your sorry for what has happened didn't ever lower the price of the game when other servers are cheaper and have far more dstuff in game. Just keep on doing what youve always done seems to be working really well if your trying to get rid of every player.
And the word elephantitus isn't in the bot one of your GM's felt like they should take my shouts. Which another gm couldn't believe. Also this was the day after i said GMs should take shouts for the little things that ganbot shouldn't(and it was for 6 hours or so). Like they were tryn to prove your or athena's point in what you said in that post.(Like you said GM's used to take shouts for much longer) They sure did right after it was said.
If you did bring up specifics in other postings they were completely lost in your "frustrated" rantings. It was recently said that somebody reworded something and it was heard/done/accepted. But, what you are failing to realize is that they reworded it, so it was UNDERSTOOD. We didn't have to weed through rantings that cloud the issue and are designed to belittle those that try to make postitive contributions.
Nice way to talk to a gold member whos planning on leaving dont you think. Why are people ranting? Maybe cause someone hasn't been listening for years. Maybe for the fact a server thats been opened a week has more than we do. Maybe the fact you jsut sat bye while complaint after complaint was made about what jarl was doing. Maybe all the people trying to help you gave up since they were jsut blown off. I might not word everything exactly the way it should be but i get my point accross in the hope you can see what the hell has gone wrong. Cause you havn't changed at all since the last time i left. I came back for my friends and it looks like me and my friends will be going somewhere else. Since i have no credibility.
And from what ive heard about new items coming out this might kill them off when alot of players have already started making them. Also heard talk about changing other existing items.. you change something you put into
Funny thing about rumors, nobody comes to me to get an answer, if you like rumors and enjoy the drama involved, that's fine, but don't judge anything seriously by them, until you have the facts. How do you know for a fact that existing things are going to be changed? How do you know for a fact what new items are being considered, etc? I don't think anybody has ever asked me.
You just want me to rat GM's out. The same GM's tryn to keep people here.
Please dont disregard the people who truly want to help cause soon there might not be anyone left that you can trust and who knowws the game.
There are few people that get disregarded, this is a false. Those few that I won't listen to have lost my trust (or the dev teams trust) by actively doing something to loose it.
Not taking somebody's every suggestion, not acting as quickly on suggestions as they may like, does not equal disregarding.
I ask again what suggestions have you used at all? Your avoiding the point completly again. And you come in game and ask that to each and every player in pages online and see what you get. What all is used and whats disregarded boboh? Seems all we have got is excuses and making players feel like they shouldnt even make a post. 90% of everything i have said is caused ive heard multiple people either complain about it or wish something would happen. This isn't all what i think. You really have to find a player that understands the game to help you boboh cause it seems you either dont have the time to see or jarl got you thinking his way for too long.
And one more thing i told you before i dont want trust given to me and its the same with credibility i want to earn it. All this talk shouldnt earn me anything either way. I'm just asking you to listen to what is possible and look at everything as a whole. I'd like to talk to you and the rest of the dev team all at one time just to show you alot of what your missing. Your overlooking the people who have tested so many builds and different items in pvp and pvm. There is a reason everything you say is in defense well except saying i have no credibility that would be considered a attack just like the cheating comment. I'm sure that will make my friends want to stay after you say things like that. Your about to lose someone that all they have tried to do is help and ask you if you needed help. And its not jsut me is the funny thing your doing this to other players very respected players. But your the only one who doesn't respect them and it pushes people to try and try to get a point accross to you and it goes ignored it seems or you jsut say something to blow it off. Think you and all the gm's and a me and a couple other players that know the game need to talk before it too late. I'm just tryn to help boboh but we can only help if you let us. Just asking you for a chance to show you and to let others help which will keep players and will keep new players. Theres alot that needs to be done and some of it needs to be done withn days. People want fun stuff to do and there are alot of easy ways to do it. Just get some gm's togethor and give me 15 mins of your time to explain. I dont want you to like me i want to get the server right and have some fun. And then earn your trust and credibility. Cause in all actuallity this is just talk and talk means nothing. Results do.
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| by "boboh" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 6:40:15 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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how many were litis and how many people knew they would lose shouts?
litis happens ganbot can not account for that, as far as not knowing, that happens too. Fact is, these are not allowable words wether known, litis or otherwise. You know, when you speed that one time in the past 3 days and get a ticket, well that ticket was done to get you to be aware of your speeding litis.
little farther youll see i lost shouts for elephantits
To be honest I don't know why this word would be in there. You have to bring them up.
When you stated the fact real mud is in there is so people dont advertise.
I never stated this and this is why you have little credibility with me, you do not take the time to read my posts. Advertising is not the reason it's not allowed, reread the posts, I will not continue to repeat myself.
Suck shouldn't be in there also you ever suck through
Yeah, you point out nice things, but you know every well that there are other usages, that's why it's there. No it shouldn't be there, but it shouldn't be used to say other thing, which is has, repeatidly that's why it's there. It is a MINOR inconvenience. That is what the majority of players feel.
And hero's can't even turn thier pvp on or off when they want so both the notious people on the mwl and the heros suffer.
This is a specific, but this also was discussed a while ago when the MWL "evolution" went it's way. Hero's can in fact turn off their PVP, they just have to wait 7 days. This is because (as explained in the past discussion) heros are PVP/PKers too, they are a part of that system. And nearly anybody on that list, doesn't want their PVP/PK off. So the only "heros" that were switching often were abusive players that "manipulated" the points to get there.
If you did bring up specifics in other postings they were completely lost in your "frustrated" rantings. It was recently said that somebody reworded something and it was heard/done/accepted. But, what you are failing to realize is that they reworded it, so it was UNDERSTOOD. We didn't have to weed through rantings that cloud the issue and are designed to belittle those that try to make postitive contributions.
Please dont disregard the people who truly want to help cause soon there might not be anyone left that you can trust and who knowws the game.
There are few people that get disregarded, this is a false. Those few that I won't listen to have lost my trust (or the dev teams trust) by actively doing something to loose it.
Not taking somebody's every suggestion, not acting as quickly on suggestions as they may like, does not equal disregarding.
Also, it has to be accept that not all ideas will be implimentable, maybe due to limitations or may not even be wanted. That's the way it works. Not everybody's ideas get it, some do, some don't. You have to be able to accept that. It's part of working on a team.
And from what ive heard about new items coming out this might kill them off when alot of players have already started making them. Also heard talk about changing other existing items.. you change something you put into
Funny thing about rumors, nobody comes to me to get an answer, if you like rumors and enjoy the drama involved, that's fine, but don't judge anything seriously by them, until you have the facts. How do you know for a fact that existing things are going to be changed? How do you know for a fact what new items are being considered, etc? I don't think anybody has ever asked me.
I dont mean any disrespect i just believe this has to be said and hope it opens your eyes.
Wether you meant to or not, you were. And think about it, if somebody gives you a bunch of ranting and raving, how much are you willing to give them the time of day. If you answer anything other than "you wouldn't" you're not being realistic.
Give me once chance and ill prove it to you.
Everybody has a chance, even those I don't trust, I always give them a chance, just like anybody that is a first time suggester. Just do it without the clutter so you can be better understood.
Some of the same people who used to make suggestions here and got fed up with it.
I know that some people got fed up waiting but I also know that some people decided that since their idea was not accepted or that it didn't happen as quickly as they wanted, that the world was a bad place, and that was that. I can't help that, fact is not all ideas work, and it takes time to impliment things. Also, some people have nothing but ideas that don't work, some people have many ideas that do. When it comes down to it, those that communicate well, get more clearly heard and have a better chance of their ideas working.
The 4th island quests were almost all ideas from players (one or two of them, that took the time to give specific details about their ideas), who emailed to me and the dev team.
I'm not asking for you to trust me either im asking for a chance to prove you can trust me.
Thing is, with me you get the trust up front, it's up to you to loose it. Then it's up to you to gain it back. I don't distrust you, but I can't help you if your ideas are not presented in a way that they can be considered. Many times, if your first thought is to present an idea by posting it on the discussion board because that will get my attention, you need to consider why you need that kind of attention. I can say this because I read every single email I recieve (although sometime delayed) and if you've sent suggestions to me, I don't remember them. Most people that have emailed me specific ideas have been considered, etc. These people never felt the need to "get attention" by making it known to the people on the discussion board. I'm sure you don't realize it, but I get emails from many players about ideas, suggestions, etc, they don't need to post them on the board.
Nearly all your "suggestions" come out as attacks, posted on the discussion board, or at least are percieved that way. Try this, email directly to me, your detailed suggestions/ideas (if you have, I don't remember seeing any emails from you). That will take a whole lot of preasure off of you, that you don't realize you place on everybody by the way you go about things. Without that preasure, you may be able to get your ideas in the mix.
You are welcome to post here for discussion, but, until the mood of the post changes, you are only setting yourself up for resistance, from everybody (you don't think that those on the dev team read this and think you are personally attacking them? There are some people on the dev team that don't want to be identified because of antics like that.)
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 5:02:11 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| how many were litis and how many people knew they would lose shouts? How many didn't care if they did lose shouts. All proof ganbot doesn't reduce cussing. And if you look back a little farther youll see i lost shouts for elephantits a word taught in sex ed at just about every school in the country. The word real mud time was reduced but saying realmud isn't reduced. When you stated the fact real mud is in there is so people dont advertise. But you reduced the time? If someone was going to advertise they would make multiple accounts and keep doing it if they wanted to advertise. Suck shouldn't be in there also you ever suck through a straw or say a monster sucked the life out of you. I'm tired of tryn to explain all this different stuff that should of been done a long time ago. I'm about to give up like many others. Same suggestions over and over and once in a while the right person will say the same thing and it will be changed. When it was brought up years ago... Look at all these posts there not being nice its all out of frustration. And you must see what has caused it. And its not just new items in games its everything. People feeling like these posts do and mean nothing so they dont speak thier mind since its a waste of time. If you look back in the posts a little ways you will see a suggestion for a new pvp\mwl ranking system also. And hero's can't even turn thier pvp on or off when they want so both the notious people on the mwl and the heros suffer. How does that work? Yes yes i know its stop the abuse of people turning pvp on and off but your punishing anyone who pvp's. Go and look how many people on the MWL Grim Luke GES has killed and then tell me you think he should be on the mwl. 1 notorious point started me on the mwl from a friendly pvp. All it takes is a newb to walk by and your aura pops them during a pvp and bam mwl points when you were tryn for the heros list. Boboh i know you and athena are looking for people to trust in helping getting the game the way it should be. And i believe you overlooking some of the best people for the job just cause they are fed up and frustrated with how things have been for so long. I like you all and seem like good people but don't disregard the people who are propsing the most ideas that would work or at least deserve a chance. And i know alot of what i puut on here should of been sent to you in emails. But the players have the right to know whats going on and alot isn't being told. They need to know before they are gone or else they would of wassted thier time making posts. I have many ideas possible for the game for every type of player to enjoy. And most can be done very easy. Please dont disregard the people who truly want to help cause soon there might not be anyone left that you can trust and who knowws the game. There are also new builds in the game now that should be fun with robe creation and id like to see them continue and be competetive. Some of the new items and spells have allowed 3 more different classes at 100 end all should be close to balanced wont know for sure till my next char is done if i saty around to finish him. And from what ive heard about new items coming out this might kill them off when alot of players have already started making them. Also heard talk about changing other existing items.. you change something you put into the game and players will be very unhappy there are other ways to correct it down the line. I dont mean any disrespect i just believe this has to be said and hope it opens your eyes. You have made some old players that know the game feel useless when they are tryn to get you to understand what all its gonna take and were willing to help. Give me once chance and ill prove it to you. And i know old players you would prolly like to have back that would help also. Some of the same people who used to make suggestions here and got fed up with it. I'm not asking for you to trust me either im asking for a chance to prove you can trust me. |
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 4:59:44 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| how many were litis and how many people knew they would lose shouts? How many didn't care if they did lose shouts. All proof ganbot doesn't reduce cussing. And if you look back a little farther youll see i lost shouts for elephantits a word taught in sex ed at just about every school in the country. The word real mud time was reduced but saying realmud isn't reduced. When you stated the fact real mud is in there is so people dont advertise. But you reduced the time? If someone was going to advertise they would make multiple accounts and keep doing it if they wanted to advertise. Suck shouldn't be in there also you ever suck through a straw or say a monster sucked the life out of you. I'm tired of tryn to explain all this different stuff that should of been done a long time ago. I'm about to give up like many others. Same suggestions over and over and once in a while the right person will say the same thing and it will be changed. When it was brought up years ago... Look at all these posts there not being nice its all out of frustration. And you must see what has caused it. And its not just new items in games its everything. People feeling like these posts do and mean nothing so they dont speak thier mind since its a waste of time. If you look back in the posts a little ways you will see a suggestion for a new pvp\mwl ranking system also. And hero's can't even turn thier pvp on or off when they want so both the notious people on the mwl and the heros suffer. How does that work? Yes yes i know its stop the abuse of people turning pvp on and off but your punishing anyone who pvp's. Go and look how many people on the MWL Grim Luke GES has killed and then tell me you think he should be on the mwl. 1 notorious point started me on the mwl from a friendly pvp. All it takes is a newb to walk by and your aura pops them during a pvp and bam mwl points when you were tryn for the heros list. Boboh i know you and athena are looking for people to trust in helping getting the game the way it should be. And i believe you overlooking some of the best people for the job just cause they are fed up and frustrated with how things have been for so long. I like you all and seem like good people but don't disregard the people who are propsing the most ideas that would work or at least deserve a chance. And i know alot of what i puut on here should of been sent to you in emails. But the players have the right to know whats going on and alot isn't being told. They need to know before they are gone or else they would of wassted thier time making posts. I have many ideas possible for the game for every type of player to enjoy. And most can be done very easy. Please dont disregard the people who truly want to help cause soon there might not be anyone left that you can trust and who knowws the game. There are also new builds in the game now that should be fun with robe creation and id like to see them continue and be competetive. Some of the new items and spells have allowed 3 more different classes at 100 end all should be close to balanced wont know for sure till my next char is done if i saty around to finish him. And from what ive heard about new items coming out this might kill them off when alot of players have already started making them. Also heard talk about changing other existing items.. you change something you put into the game and players will be very unhappy there are other ways to correct it down the line. I dont mean any disrespect i just believe this has to be said and hope it opens your eyes. You have made some old players that know the game feel useless when they are tryn to get you to understand what all its gonna take and were willing to help. Give me once chance and ill prove it to you. And i know old players you would prolly like to have back that would help also. Some of the same people who used to make suggestions here and got fed up with it. I'm not asking for you to trust me either im asking for a chance to prove you can trust me. |
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| by "boboh" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 4:17:40 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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You complain about ganbot shout removal (I'm not addressing your other issues) and you don't provide any specifics. So I went through the last 7 days (before today) to see what ganbot has taken shouts for, I excluded those that were obvoiusly trying to loose shouts. I have masked the words but each line is a single removal. There was one shout removal for realmud, it was the only server name shout removal over this 7 days. List:
sux *
wtf *
fbomb
[to deficate]
petasse [non-English]
yeule [non-English]
bitch
chienne
lmfao
suck
piss
merde [non-English]
bok [non-English]
damn *
[to deficate]
fbomb [to deficate]
That's 16 shout removals over the 7 day period, of which I don't believe any of these words should be said on main. I put an astrisk (*) next to what I would belive to be a mild word although not necessary, but mild none-the-less. (note wtf could have been typo, that is why I see it as mild. )
So over 7 days of the 16 removals listed 3 were mild, 13 were absolutly necessary. On top of the 16, 1 removal was for a server name. All told this is more than acceptable and I don't see any of these needing adjustment.
So what is it you want to be able to say, let me know and we'll review it. |
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:14:36 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| been jailed twice once for casting plague on someone in a no pvp zone and walking away. Another time for killing pkers on lh bridge. Vaped a few times for the same thing. All this because i was tryn to keep some new players alive and let them lvl. Lost shouts weekly for words i can say to a pastor. Should i pay for a game like this? No idea why i came back now, figured in 6 months of being gone things would of changed. The game is for fun and with all this bs its not. People got a unique item for donating money. While all the people that pay money to keep the game going got nothing. I don't want to a response from a gm or boboh about these posts, that wont keep me or others here. Since im sure i know what will be said just like all the times before. Just keep in mind were still losing more people than the server is gaining. |
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| by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 1:59:39 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| alot was said when we weren't getting anything from jarl. Nothing was done about it till he left. Lost alot of players over many things that could of been done long ago even before the editor was out. Fun is the point of the game and playing a game thats always the same makes people move on to something else. Or else id still be playing all my old nes games. Suggestions have been made for sooo long and what ones were used? Think im done playing here. Not enough fun, events, raids, or any other event that is very easy to run. Too many sugggestions having to be made over and over for anything to be accomplished or thought about. Heard some want to keep the server small well job accompllished. 4th island can't have 20 people lvling on it at once the exp gain between classes has changed big time. The only warriors or archers now on the top 20 milked pman without consequence. While others lvl'd the normal way. And Pman is still the best exp in game even with him being changed. Used to be that archers and warriors were on the top 20 list without milking him. But we've been told the exp gain is still the same as always. Funny on other servers they have archers and warriors on the top 20 that never even seen pman. I was one of them... I was even ranked number 1 as a azure archer for a while. Granted the server was new and i was still using most of the same items we have. And I could still keep up with other mages. I made a lvl 137 3x that has only seen 2 events in all that time he was being made(on GV). Sneak on another server and tell them how this server is and see the response you get. Im tired of hearing excuses and making suggestions it is a waste of time like most eveyone told me in the first place. Why else do so few gold members use the forums? Kinda thought it was jarl's fault but boboh has control over everything and didn't listen to the suggestions about how much the game was being screwed with. Reminds me of a jail. You get what you get no complaining say something about a event on main no events. Say the wrong word no shouts. Say anything bad about the server or gm's and its bashing when its the truth. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:29:22 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| *edit* another thing on boboh's to do list but anyway. i wasnt specifically talking about rhijaen's post,i just bumped this one along with many others. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:16:47 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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im not calling boboh a liar most of the time his words are true,and when viable.viable to whose terms.viable means its hard or will take some time or to much of a pain in the *edit* to work on.viable covers alot of vagueness.
we have been using the editor for how many months now?check the date we got the editor and todays date and tell me how long its been and then tell me how many updates we have had and im not talking and server upgrades or spelling/text/errors/fixes im talking about player content upgrades.
xonk do you even know or remember what all is on roberts to-do-list? it was and is "HUGE" your not going to sit there and tell me he has completed his whole list of things to do.i know better.
all i was basically saying is its about time some things started rolling along.its been awhile.
and im suprised the new dev team got this last update out as fast as they did,with the recent changes and all.of course i dont personally know what was left over from the last team but wtg anyway. |
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| by "Xonk GES" on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:44:06 PM | | | | | 34 Subjects 387 Posts |
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yes i understand some of the things were beyond your control but from the time people donated there hard earned money till now has been a big huge lapse in time.from any editor.
There really was no huge lapse in time. Don't forget we started at version 1.4 from Dialsoft when people had donated. And the last version of the Editor from Vircom was 1.1 I believe, which Jarl had been using all this time. All I'm saying is that you point out a to do list that never gets done, when you're very wrong, and all of Boboh's words are true, especially his last two "when viable". |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:01:24 AM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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yes i understand some of the things were beyond your control but from the time people donated there hard earned money till now has been a big huge lapse in time.from any editor.
p.s. and now things are moving again finally i think every1 is willing to give it a chance...those that are left on the server that is.i may decide to pay for all of my accts again in the future depends on what i see get acomplished. |
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| by "Xonk GES" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:47:05 PM | | | | | 34 Subjects 387 Posts |
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Red,
Some of the things we had to wait for new editor and dialsoft's updates. We're now at version 1.5 and dialsoft is already working on 1.6 and 1.7. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:19:11 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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yes it may be getting worked on now finally
and maybe as fast as possible but its about damn time. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:10:17 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| im just showing you people do come up with ideas and the general time frame of them some current some really old.but basically a to do list that never seems to get done. |
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| by "boboh" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:48:58 AM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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| Red, all you've proven by bumping these is the fact that we do respond, we do consider and we do act on suggestions, when viable. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:08:25 AM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| by "Rhijaen" on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 8:11:22 AM | | | | | 38 Subjects 170 Posts |
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| by "boboh" on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 3:14:19 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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It's a good idea, but not easy to impliment. The logging is not real time, it processes every 5 (or 10 minutes) so there is a gap that they can exploit.
There is a system in place that delays the time that they can do it, for example if it's the first change, they can make another within 1 minute, same with the 2nd or 3rd, but on the 4th they have to wait 20 mintues, 5th 40 minutes and it goes up until it clears after a few hours (I don't know the exact times.) |
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| by "Rhijaen" on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 12:45:22 PM | | | | | 38 Subjects 170 Posts |
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| some people like goign and pking people when they are xping, i wont say i never did it, but its annoying how they log off then turn pvp off, this idea was probably brought up before but, why not make it where when you kill someone your vp can't be changed for 24hrs, except for when your on pvp island messing around with friends or something |
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