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by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:12:38 PM   Reply to Post  11 Subjects  202 Posts
Oh and as for what we got in such a short amount of time. Thank you and good job to the Dev. team. I've had fun with the changes and have had a good time with just the little bit we got and the changes made to existing stuff. But thank you for working hard and getting it out quickly.
by "Grim Luke GES" on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:08:22 PM   Reply to Post  11 Subjects  202 Posts
The change to the generals quest doesn't tell us how many kills we have after the first part is done. Just wondering why it only tells you prior to attaining your first rank. Part of the problem with the quest was not knowing before you started the quest(or during). I know no plans have been made to continue the quest yet but knowing how many kills you have after would be useful if the quest was to continue. And would keep some players from wanting thier kills reset if they know what they have done in advance.
by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:07:19 AM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
little bump
by "RedScorpion ges" on Saturday, January 7, 2006 - 8:53:28 PM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
one person words it a little differently and all is great.
by "boboh" on Saturday, January 7, 2006 - 4:31:07 PM   Email poster at t4c@thevine.net   View poster's web site.   Reply to Post  154 Subjects  1,654 Posts
New quests and quest addons have never had their details released, this is for the players to discover. Quest fixes most likely have their details released. This has always been the case, for the most part, on our server. Also, whenever a quest or item has been released, that in some way has had a negative impact, all possible reasonable resolutions have been pursued. To insinuate otherwise is unfounded. And as Athena said in the post below, nothing has been discussed yet, requesting/demainding information that isn't there, is useless.

Big Jim, the people working on the quests read these boards, so they will take your suggestions into consideration.
by "Big Jim Beef BA" on Saturday, January 7, 2006 - 2:22:43 PM   View poster's web site.   Reply to Post  2 Subjects  259 Posts
It shouldn't be a big secret, any RPG that has a bug or problem that has impacted players will tell them in the release notes XYZ has been fixed with a short description if need be. Such a thing is not giving out advantages to anyone or revealing information that the players should be discovering themselves.

Here's a bit more detail on the problem. It doesn't need a huge discussion or a lengthy reply, just keep it in mind when this issue is addressed.

1st, At certain stages Jarl & Cerbere have given indications as to which monsters are good. evil or neutral. This has not always been correct or maybe it was correct for a short time & changed some time after with no notice.

2nd, most of the best monsters are on the evil side of the map, so naturally the goodies are going to come over there too, unaware of the problems they are getting themselves into later down the track.

If the quest is to remain then resetting the figures won't help much because exactly the same thing will happen again, so some sort of quest of absolution that players can do to reset their monster counts may be an answer.
by "RedScorpion ges" on Saturday, January 7, 2006 - 12:13:24 PM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
by the way here's a brand new car you just have to discover we have hidden the car keys inside the motor.you just have to figure out how to get the keys out to start it.

p.s. you can delete this post as well if you like.
by "boboh" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 9:29:02 PM   Email poster at t4c@thevine.net   View poster's web site.   Reply to Post  154 Subjects  1,654 Posts
I believe Athena gave a very clear answer, which was that it has not been discussed. So asking over and over or trying to justify why you're asking doesn't matter, it hasn't even been discussed yet, that's the answer, i.e. there is no answer. And so you know what Athena knows, which is exactly what she told you in the post.

As for an unfair advantage, yes it would be, not everybody reads the forums, this subject may get old and not be at the top, etc. So others would not be included in the information. Wether you meant for it to be an advantage is not the issue. Athena was pointing out WHY an answer couldn't have been given if there was one to give anyway.

If you have construct requests to make by all means post them, if you have concerns about what negative effects may come. These types of things will be considered when future development on things are discussed.

But, do not expect to get any details about new quests or additions. Part of the addition process is the discovery.

I'm sure your concern about what you've done with your toon, not being worth what you thought is understood. However, sometimes these things can't always be accounted for. Many many many times in T4C things have changed unexpectedly. It will not be done purposely and we try our hardest to accomidate as many situtions, requests, etc. as possible.
by "RedScorpion ges" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 8:07:01 PM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
im not trying to gain any "advantage" lmao
what im asking is a simple question.
will "all" the players get reset for the rank quest,since alot have already killed many diff types of monster after the intial first quest on 4th isle.since nothing was discussed about the quest after the general people killed many diff types of monsters thus fucking up the quest for potential future upgrades and changes.
will everyones quest get reset or not simple as that.
i dont see how i can make it any simplier for you to understand.your trying to look to deep into the problem take a step back and consider lvling on the 4th isle for 170+ lvls on the same "specfic" monster.i have 4 chars on 4th hence 170+ lvls.
maybe some one else can ask in a different manner that will make you see the simpleness of the question and not trying to gain some advantage.lol and why would i ask it here on our main forums if it was just for my own personal use to make just "my" char stronger in any way shape or form. lol
my main "P"oint and reason for asking this is back when jarl was discussing the quest it was considered an option of resetting everyones quest not just mine.or some type of quest to get it reset but thats all water under the bridge now.now we just need to know if its going to be one way or the other.simple yes or no
no one is gaining an advantage if you say yes and no one is gaining an advantage if you say no.
ok sum1 else post im going to bed
by "Grim Luke GES" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 3:58:10 PM   Reply to Post  11 Subjects  202 Posts
Athena we would jsut like to know something. It would make common sense that the rank quest will continue or what would be the point of only have one rank? We were told by GM's a long time ago to kill one specific type of monster (goodies killing evils and evil killing goodies) even after you finish the first part of the quest. And I don't see how it would be a unfair advantage to tell us here since everyone can read it. It would be unfair to reset everyones kills when we have made a point of lvling on one specific type of monster from the start. Players arnt looking for a unfair advantage they just dont want to waste thier time. The quest is already started therefore some knowledge about the future of the quest should be known. It's the same as putting in half a quest and not telling anyone about how to do the rest of it and if you dont do it right your screwed completly unless you want to start over.
ps. if i lose all my kills without being asked if i want to reset them i would be very unhappy lol
by "athena" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 2:14:10 PM   Reply to Post  15 Subjects  63 Posts
The Rank quest Has NOT been discussed in any detail.
If it will be reset has not been discussed
If it will have new monsters has not been discussed
If it will require items or what type has not been discussed
What will happen to this quest in the future has not been decided.

What you are asking is for me to give you hints on future changes to a quest.. so you can play your character to gain an advantage when the changes are made...
Since No changes have been decided upon with reguards to this quest that information would be impossible for me to give you...
NOT that I would give any player the advantage of knowing future changes in any content development.

So I would suggest you play your character the best way you see fit and wait for the changes.
by "RedScorpion ges" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 12:31:28 PM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
*edit* if changes means reset then i can get off this one monster ive been killing for 666 lvls and randomise the boredom of killing the same exact monster day after day.
but if changes and updates means the rank quest will continue to go off the monsters we have killed in the past and continue to kill in the future then at least i will "know" that i have to stay on this course of action if i wish to be eligible for the quest.
by "RedScorpion ges" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 12:27:32 PM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
changes and updates means i should keep killing same monsters or changes and updates means,those that have already killed mass amounts of various monsters will get a reset or alternate course of action?

changes and updates are great and im not even concerned "WHEN" we will be getting them what i am concerned about is will killing a goodie while being evil affect it in "ANY" way and vice versa.
or should i just quit playing till we know for sure what will happen with the quest,or sit in sh temp not killing any monsters.like i said i dont care if it gets an update the year after next,just a lil need to know info.
by "athena" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 9:36:32 AM   Reply to Post  15 Subjects  63 Posts
The rank quest has been looked at an will get changes and updates in future updates..... but for now we are concentrating on fixes and some new content that was planed long ago...
by "RedScorpion ges" on Friday, January 6, 2006 - 7:37:36 AM   Reply to Post  31 Subjects  871 Posts
thanks for the post. but i have a question that i would like an answer to as it effects my game playing currently.
is there going to be any new developement on the rank quest,new rank quest or a reset or are we to keep killing the same monster for another 2 years?personally im sick of killing the same monster with hopes of something being added to the current rank quest.a simple yes/no would releive a little boredom.yes theres more comming to rank keep killing the same monsters. or no feel free to kill different types,or it wont matter rank will be reset so everyone has an equal oportunity for the quest.one of the above answers will be greatly appreciated by many players inculding myself.and thank you.
by "Crit" on Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - 1:39:16 PM   Reply to Post  10 Subjects  107 Posts
Thank you for the update on where the server stands at this time.
by "Athena" on Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - 1:11:52 PM   Reply to Post  15 Subjects  63 Posts


Due to the increased demands on Mark (Jarl) in real life he can no
longer devote the time to the Development Staff and has temporarily stepped down as
the Team leader

We at the GV Staff would like to thank Mark for all his time and effort
he put into the development of new content for GV Server

Athena will Assume Mark's duties as the Development Team Leader
Xonk will be continuing as editor
She will continue as the GM staff leader also.
First . We are not ready for New Ideas at this time.. we will post on
the forums when we are ready
As with any reorginazation we must first look at whats been done in the past then get a good idea of where we are before proceeding.
We must Finish items as yet undone; Clean up any known bugs and then we can start to move forward.
At this time we are not looking to add any personnel to the developer team.


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