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| by "Warm Apple Pie" on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 11:54:26 AM | |  | 14 Subjects 493 Posts |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:08:45 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| *takes WAP's 2 cents and throws them at him* |
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| by "Warm Apple Pie" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 6:46:42 PM | | | 14 Subjects 493 Posts |
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| Well regardless of any rules or precedent, my personal opinion is this- It rarely happens, it rarely is reported, and if it is, sucks to be you. There is a nice candid moment with me. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 5:31:11 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| offensive aura not just the arrows..... and im not sayin targeting a person im sayin a guard in lh. |
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| by "Ted" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 4:50:38 PM | | | 7 Subjects 58 Posts |
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| i understand that but i was under the understanding most of this was about a in town thing |
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| by "Big Jim Beef BA" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 3:16:41 PM | |  | | | 2 Subjects 259 Posts |
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Archers have to worry about people walking in front of them while they are killing something or they can accidently kill people in the crossfire.
Not much of a problem in towns, it's more of a problem in small confined lvling areas. |
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| by "Ted" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 3:09:08 PM | | | 7 Subjects 58 Posts |
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| a mage's area spell would target everything if all pvp on but dont you have to click with a archer to kill and if anything whats any type of char have to do with the aura al of there aura goea off the same does not have anything to do with one type of char now grant a war archer aura goes of more with melee and next is people do know aura does that stuff so they just need to be careful is all and stop crying and moaning about things that they know can and does happen |
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| by "Warm Apple Pie" on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 12:50:05 PM | | | 14 Subjects 493 Posts |
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| I think Zoli is/has an archer, around level 150. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:41:14 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| Psst btw zoli you need a archer its soo easy to kill by accident lol |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 7:17:04 AM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| Hmm ok guess those friendly pvp's when i started got me on the mwl and killn others on the mwl jsut added to it...Why do we even have it then if many of the people that are on it are not notorious pker's. Not sure why i even asked MWL means nothing i guess. Just tired of people thinking im a notorius pker when im on the mwl for friendly pvp, hunting down pkers, and killing thieves that are not on the mwl. Guess one day i might be at the top and everyone will hunt me for killn the bad pkers. Good system |
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| by "Hador GES" on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 11:36:26 AM | | | 9 Subjects 326 Posts |
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| It is all explained on the most wanted webpage. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 9:26:08 AM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| Oh so if i had no mwl points when i started and killed people on the mwl i would get hero points? Thought we were told diff in the past by jarl. If we kill a notorious pker we still get mwl points since we are no better than they are lol.Also do we have to notify a gm for the hero points? Just tryn to get caught up on how things are goin now some of the things ive repeated are what we were told a while back. |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 9:56:27 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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yeah i was killing dr's and mwl chars and shot half way up the mwl myself due to a few friendly duels with a few neutral players but oh well.
its not like the big "MWL" means anything anyway just an inconvience to turn pvp off.its not like this server is 100% pvp anyway. |
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| by "boboh" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 4:30:37 PM | |  | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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| This has been explained over the time we've had the system in place, basically it's like this. Once you gain bad points, you can NOT gain good points. You must be neutral or good and have killed those on the mwl to get good points. Reasoning is that even though a notorious kills a notorious doesn't make them a hero. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 2:58:01 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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can i serve my jail time in advance? most of mwl points arn't from killn newbies im usually the one killn the pkers and get mwl points for doin it hehe. Stil wonder how we get hero points and why they are next to mwl points if we dont get hero points for killn the bad pkers who do kill the low lvl newbs. After all weve been told those who kill the bad pkers are are jsut as bad as them. And the pvp holes are gettn pretty big its not very hard for the offensive aura to get newbies in lh. This whole deal has become a bigger issue since we dont have as many reset's as we used too. And i admit my aura killed 2 people in lh in one week from the offensive aura alone, its not hard to do by accident when your bored killn brigands for no reason. |
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| by "boboh" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:46:21 AM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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something like, this doesn't happen much, if it does, tough luck.
I'm glad you put it in context with saying something like, but it really wasn't like this, although I guess close, so sort of like.
What I said in the past which applied to this day (and all this has already been discussed, some of you probably have forgotten) is that if a PK happens in a no pvp zone where it was not witnessed the one doing the pk will most likely be jailed. Accidental killings are far less likely than it is being portrayed here. Because a high level player can easily avoid a newbie that may be trying something like this. For example, they if in a non-pvp zone that has a "pvp hole" they can simply walk a little ways away and for the most part, be out of the hole, problem solved. It used to be rare, and now that aura was changed it is extremely rare. Funny thing is, that when it usually happens, the newbie is killed not once, but instead multiple times, over and over and the Pker (claiming to be the victim) did what to avoid it? Nothing which is a form of compliance. Because, it's not hard to avoid it. So if you're somebody who doesn't have a history of PKing newbies in a no-pvp zone, and you killed one once which and can show how it could be an accident, and there is nothing in the logs showing a confrontation, chances are you won't be sanctioned. We are not a full PK server, never have been, so we will enforce the no pvp zones with the best evidence available. Maybe this will result in an innocent recieving sanction, but it is rare.
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| by "Gage-A" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:17:41 AM | | | 24 Subjects 210 Posts |
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| ok just read my own post and wrote that wrong there is people who watch users online to see who is pvp on and mostly to see what noobs are pvp on just for the fun of going to pk noobs are to up there mwl point and again i think thats what Zoli ment and that is a bunch of bs does it make a person over lvl 100 for example to kill a lvl 3 feel powerful hell we need players not to chase them away |
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| by "Gage-A" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 1:43:14 AM | | | 24 Subjects 210 Posts |
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| sry not sure why it went on 2 times |
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| by "Gage-A" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 1:41:56 AM | | | 24 Subjects 210 Posts |
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| well still a fine like to a pk are just watching users online and going hunting noobs to pk and thats what i think Zoli ment that just a real bunch of BS peopole doing that."but then again I think some feel to forget they was the little ones once also" |
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| by "Gage-A" on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 1:41:27 AM | | | 24 Subjects 210 Posts |
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| well still a fine like to a pk are just watching users online and going hunting noobs to pk and thats what i think Zoli ment that just a real bunch of BS peopole doing that."but then again I think some feel to forget they was the little ones once also" |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 9:41:25 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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and btw gob bridge is fair game.go past the bridge better turn pvp off.go downstairs turn pvp off.dont want killed turn pvp off.
for those of us that cant turn pvp off we live with it or kill the ones who cry about dying that can turn theres off lol. |
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| by "Damien-A" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 8:26:29 PM | | | 8 Subjects 107 Posts |
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| it does still happen zoli, but i agree with what shes saying as well, but on the aura, ive watched someone get killed SOLELY bye defensive aura 4 times in the last 3 days, maybe more testing needs to be done, or u need to test on play server |
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| by "Zoli BA" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 8:03:08 PM | | | | | | | 0 Subjects 7 Posts |
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| I'll tell you right now that all your arguments are Bu****it. The 99.99% of all newbies are not killed by mistakenly attacking an experienced player and being killed by the aura. How do I know? When I returned to the server, I created a brand new toon. In the first week I played, I was killed in LH or at Gob bridge 3 times. I never attcked anyone. I was simply trying to start a new wisdom mage. Each time I was one-hit by a far more powerful player. This kind of egotistical jerk player delights in one-hitting a brand newby. It scares new players off. It has nothing to do with the accidental firing of an aura. If you guys can't stop attacking newbies, you will never have new players on this server. |
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| by "Warm Apple Pie" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 5:24:38 PM | | | 14 Subjects 493 Posts |
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| Jarl raises a good point, this was a real problem when the single shot aura could kill people, it no longer can. Provided you do not have shield spells/items activated/on, you will not be able to kill someone defensively. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 1:54:59 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| Can't tell me the offensive aura can't kill in one shot cause ive seen 3 or 4 people at once die when the offensive aura goes off Arn't gm's always saying if you dont want to die turn pvp off? Now were being told if we dont want to risk goin to jail to turn it off.. So yeah jail the gold members who play the game let the newbies run free that are likely to quit in a few months. Jarl of all people how come you only consider the old defensive aura only? After all your head of the dev team. |
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| by "grim luke ges" on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 1:41:17 PM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| hmm i had a low lvl int mage try to drain me to give back some of his hp's aura popped him before his drain healed him. And what about wrath? Also could have armlet of flames macro'd and go through your normal macros for bracers of immortals repl ammy etc etc. And then theres the offensive aura a few people have died from me killn gaurds in lh from the holes or a newb walks in front of a arrow. Whos fault is that? |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 8:03:44 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| so the gauntlets of shocking im wearing cant take the final kill shot? |
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| by "jarl" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 6:35:41 PM | | | 61 Subjects 2,154 Posts |
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actually your all wrong  aura can't kill someone only takes them to 1 hp, so unless you put a shield spell on yourself theyh won't die, if you use a shield spell that would be your own fault |
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| by "Warm Apple Pie" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 4:30:09 PM | | | 14 Subjects 493 Posts |
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| This is true, but If you remember the debate, boboh's final words were something like, this doesn't happen much, if it does, tough luck. Reminds you of ganbot context situations and anything else that might go wrong on GV . |
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| by "RedScorpion ges" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 4:07:28 PM | | | 31 Subjects 871 Posts |
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| if im in lh and athena tells me to turn pvp off and i cant because of mwl then if the noob attacks me its his tuff luck. |
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| by "Damien-A" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 3:55:42 PM | | | 8 Subjects 107 Posts |
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| I think Grim has a good point that should be looked into, after all the seraph didnt actually attack, and we shouldnt be forced to turn pvp off to avoid abusers |
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| by "Grim Luke Ges" on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:49:24 AM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| like to add a bit more also if im attacked by a newbie in lh and my aura kills them am i jailed? was told i would be by Athena. Also was told to turn my pvp off so i wouldnt be. Shouldnt she tell the newbie that died that? I guess if i dont like someone i can go start a trial account and get myself killed by atatcking a seraph in lh. |
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| by "grim luke" on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:45:45 AM | | | 11 Subjects 202 Posts |
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| question on the pvp in lh if a high lvl seraphs aura goes off in a hole and kills a newb is that jailtime? Think we have been told in the past not to even attack anything in lh but thats never gonna happen. |
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 | by "t4cdiscussadmin" on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 6:58:22 PM | | | 13 Subjects 89 Posts |
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Bumping up this post for refreshing everyone's memory.
T4C Discussion Administration |
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| by "T4CDiscussAdmin" on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 - 3:59:28 PM | | | 13 Subjects 89 Posts |
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Bumping up this post for refreshing everyone's memory.
T4C Discussion Administration |
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| by "boboh" on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 4:27:21 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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We have not had that reported. I guess the newbies don't report it.
There are two choices.
1. We don't enforce PVP holes and so there are no sanctuaries.
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2. We enforce it this way.
Although some investigation can be done, it often comes down to one word against another, and even friends lying for their friends. |
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| by "boboh" on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:00:21 PM | | | | | | | 154 Subjects 1,654 Posts |
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There is NO PVP/PK allowed in the temples or in Light Haven.
There are no accepted exuses for such. None. Self defense is NOT an excuse. You can most certainly run away. So there is no excuse. If you have to prove your braveness, then you risk jail time for breaking this rule.
Why is it a rule? Because it is a breaking of a server bug. These areas are intended to be protected by the server. But there is a bug that allows cheaters to attack in holes.
Just attacking MUST be witnessed by a GM, because this is not logged.
Deaths are logged and the person causing the death will be jailed REGARDLESS of the reason.
If somebody is attacking from a doorway or into a temple report it to a GM online, if there is no GM online leave the area and email me. Then the GMs will know to keep an eye on these people. This doesn't mean they are always caught, but it does inprove the chances.
Remember self defense is not a an excuse. Get out of the area to disengage the attack, it's NOT difficult.
Some people take advantage of this to have you kill them, so that you are jailed. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS TACTIC, it is foolish of you to do so, it does not prove your bravery, it shows your gullability. Get out of the area and report it to a GM. Help the GMs catch them.
This is not a new rule. |
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